See, I actually have some of those types and what I really need to get is one of these bad boys: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-18-in-Steel-Pipe-Wrench-48-22-7118/206865421. somehow every farmer I know has one that is vaguely red with all the paint coming off, grungy as hell and will work forever. Like, my dad has one and the friend I borrowed one from had one that was identical. the drain pipes were 2 inch pipes and none of my smaller grabby wrenches would work.